Englisch Referat

    Hallo,


    wir hatten die Aufgabe für den Englisch Unterricht ein Kurz-Referat anzufertigen, indem wir ein Film, Buch etc. thematisieren sollten.
    Wäre schön wenn jemand den Text mal korrekturlesen, und mich auf eventuelle Fehler aufmerksam machen könnte:


    Background information:


    Red Dragon is the first novel of the terrifying trilogy of Hannibal – the cannibal – who is the main character that is played by Anthony Hopkins. The films “The silent of the lambs”, “Hannibal” and now “Red Dragon”, are all based on the novels of Thomas Harris from year 1981.
    Finally, Red Dragon should be the end of the “Hopkins-Hannibal-Trilogy”, but in chronological order, the story of Red Dragon happens first.



    Story:
    Previous History
    The FBI agent, Will Graham, quits the bureau after almost losing his life at the hands of a serial killer, Hannibal Lector, but he succeeds in catching him.


    Main Story
    Years later, Will Graham, known for his expertise in delving into the minds of killers, is not a FBI agent anymore. He is living a quiet existence with his wife and son in Florida.
    But know his specialized knowledge is asked again. A new serial killer frightens the country. Graham reluctantly agrees to come out of retirement and assist the FBI. He soon realizes that the best way to catch the killer, Francis Dolarhyde (Ralph Fiennes), “The Tooth Fairy”, is to go back to the incarcerated Lector and ask him for his insights…


    Characteristic:


    The only figure that is worth to describe particularly is the one of the cruel killer, Francis Dolarhyde. He is a really special character that acts from a personal motive. Francis is inspired by a William-Blake-Painting “The Great Red Dragon and the Woman Clothed with the Sun”. He is obsessed with this bizarre painting, believing there is a red dragon within him, the personification of his demonic drives. While the "transformation" of its victims he also feels transformed. When he sees himself in the mirror, he knows that Lector sees the same as he does. He believes that also Lector would see someone, which was once a human and is now a higher nature. Flashbacks to Dolarhyde's terrifying childhood, you can understand this psychological confusion.
    Accordingly you can say Francis Dolarhyde is schizophrenic character. He can identify himself with Hannibal Lector. Conversely when Francis fall in love with a blind girl, you recognize that he does not like what he does. The red dragon within him command him to kill that girl, but Francis does not want to …


    Opinion:


    I think Red Dragon, as the 1st part of the Hannibal Lector trilogy, has succeeded in all points. One of the main strengths of this film was the brilliant cast, especially Edward Norton that you know from films like “Fight Club” or “American History X”, and of course Anthony Hopkins, who is the best actor of Hannibal, I think.
    The film convinced by its presentation of the characters and its very well set in shock effects supported by the soundtrack that added to the tension.
    So when you like “The silent of the lambs”, you would like “Red Dragon” as well. It is much better than “Hannibal” and as exciting as “The silent of the lambs”. Anyway, they used the original locations, so there appears a feeling you know from the other films. Because of this I would really recommend this film and it is really worth seeing.


    Wäre echt dankbar! :)


    MfG Nico

    Hallo,


    wir hatten die Aufgabe für den Englisch Unterricht ein Kurz-Referat anzufertigen, in_dem wir ein Film, Buch etc. thematisieren sollten.
    Wäre schön wenn jemand den Text mal korrekturlesen_ und mich auf eventuelle Fehler aufmerksam machen könnte:


    Background information:


    Red Dragon is the first novel of the terrifying trilogy of Hannibal – the cannibal – who is the main character that (oder auch which) is played by Anthony Hopkins. The films “The silent of the lambs”, “Hannibal” and now “Red Dragon”, are all based on the novels by Thomas Harris written 1981.
    Finally, Red Dragon should be the end of the “Hopkins-Hannibal-Trilogy”, but in chronological order, the story of Red Dragon happens first.



    Story:
    Previous History
    The FBI agent_ Will Graham_ quits the bureau after almost losing his life at the hands of a serial killer, Hannibal Lector, but he succeeds in catching him.


    Main Story
    Years later_ Will Graham, known for his expertise in delving into the minds of killers, is not a FBI agent anymore. He is living a quiet existence with his wife and son in Florida.
    But _now his specialized knowledge is asked again. A new serial killer frightens the country. Graham reluctantly agrees to come out of retirement and assist the FBI. He soon realizes that the best way to catch the killer, Francis Dolarhyde (Ralph Fiennes), “The Tooth Fairy”, is to go back to the incarcerated Lector and ask him for his insights…


    Characteristic:


    The only figure that is worth to describe particularly is _ the cruel killer, Francis Dolarhyde. He is a really special character that acts from a personal motive. Francis is inspired by a William-Blake-Painting “The Great Red Dragon and the Woman Clothed with the Sun”. He is obsessed by this bizarre painting, believing there is a red dragon within him, the personification of his demonic drives(???) . While the "transformation" of its victims he also feels transformed. When he sees himself in the mirror, he knows that Lector sees the same as he does. He believes that also Lector would see someone, which was once a human and is now a higher nature. Flashbacks to Dolarhyde's terrifying childhood, you can understand this psychological confusion.
    Accordingly you can say Francis Dolarhyde is a schizophrenic character. He can identify himself with Hannibal Lector. Conversely when Francis falls in love with a blind girl, you recognize that he does not like what he does.(schreibs um. klingt blöd. zb.: he hates what e does. oder he doesn't like to lay violent hands on the victims) The red dragon within him commands him to kill that girl, but Francis does not (besser: doesn't?) want to …


    Opinion:


    I think Red Dragon, as the 1st part of the Hannibal Lector trilogy, has succeeded in all points. One of the main strengths of this film was the brilliant cast, especially Edward Norton that you know from films like “Fight Club” or “American History X”, and of course Anthony Hopkins, who is the best actor of Hannibal, I think.
    The film convinced by its presentation of the characters and its very well set in shock effects supported by the soundtrack that added to the tension.
    So if you like “The silent of the lambs”, you would like “Red Dragon” as well. It is much better than “Hannibal” and as exciting as “The silent of the lambs”. Anyway, they used the original locations, so there appears a feeling you know from the other films. Because of this I would really recommend this film and it is really worth seeing.


    Wäre echt dankbar!


    MfG Nico



    unterstreichungen bedeuten hier das gleiche, wie die welligen unterstreichungen deiner Lehrkraft... Ausdruck


    ich hab heut nicht meinen besten Tag, entschuldige also bitte, wenn nicht überall verbesserungsvorschläge gemacht wurden. ein, zwei Sätze könnten noch überarbeitet werden, müssen aber nicht unbedingt. ich hoffe, dass ich alle rechtschreibfehler gefunden hab. ich kann nichts versprechen.
    ich würde es begrüssen, wenn du wieder mal im Forum vorbeischaust und mir sagst, welche Fehler dein/e LehrerIN gefunden hat


    mfg Matthias :))

    Vielen Dank für die Mühe! :)


    Wir müssen es Mittwoch abgeben, ich denke mal nächsten Montag werden wir es wiederbekommen. Ich lass es dich dann wissen, was meine mehr oder weniger kompetente Englisch Lehrerin noch alles zu bemängeln hatte ;)


    Eine Frage noch, uns wird immer gesagt das wir in Sachtexten immer die Langform benutzen sollen, also "does not" statt doesn´t. Dies wird mit der Begründung geäußert "doesn´t" ist informeller. Du sagst an der einen Stelle ist "doesn´t" besser. Jetzt bin ich verwirrt *gg*

    ich persönlich bin der meinung, dass der englischunterricht in der schule auf das spätere Leben vorbereiten sollte. also ziel des unterrichtes: verstehen von natural spoken englisch, sprechen von internantional verständlichem englisch etc.
    und langformen werden definitv NICHT verwendet. Wenn deine Lehrerin es verlangt, mach es. aber du wirst in deinem Leben keinen amerikaner, engländer, kanadier, afrikaner etc treffen, der in einem Gespräch mit dir langformen verwenden wird. auch wirst du selten texte lesen mit langformen.


    wie gesagt, wenn deine lehrerin meint, langformen verlangen zu müssen, schreib langformen.
    ich schau morgen nochmal in den text rein. vielleicht find ich noch was


    Matthias


    ergänzung: ich hab in schon genug englischsprachige Filme gesehen und auch genug Fachbücher in englisch gewälzt (was waren es noch für Zeiten, als die Deutschen in der Forschung Maßstab waren :( ) und Langformen sind selbst in super-fach-literatur nicht "standard". Also selbst "Science" oder meine englischen Fachbücher greifen auf kurzformen zurück. keine durchgehende langformen...
    hat deine lehrerin das Staatsexamen erst vor kurzem gemacht? dann schieb ihr beharren auf die langformen auf professorale Indoktrination. Sie weiss es einfach nicht besser. hab mitleid.
    hilfe. je mehr ich drüber nachdenke, desto mehr respekt habe ich vor meiner ehemaligen Englischlehrerin... :O

    Danke, jetzt bin ich um einiges schlauer.


    Naja meine Englischlehrerin ist schon etwas länger dabei. Aber ehrlich gesagt hatte ich schon bessere Lehrkräfte in Englisch als sie. Ich bin jetzt in der Klasse 10 eines Gymnasiums, und ich behaupte jetzt mal von mir selber, dass ich in Klasse 7/8 (als wir noch nen anderen Englisch-Lehrer hatten) besseres Englisch sprechen konnte, als es jetzt der Fall ist. Eigentlich schade drum :-/


    Noch ne kleine Frage: Was macht dich eigentlich hier zum Englischexperten? Hast du Englisch studiert, mal ne Zeit im englischsprachigen Ausland verbracht etc. ?


    MfG Nico :)

    Background information:


    Red Dragon is the first novel of the terrifying trilogy of Hannibal – the cannibal – who is the main character played by Anthony Hopkins. The films “The silent of the lambs”, “Hannibal” and now “Red Dragon” are all based on the novels by Thomas Harris written in 1981. (er hat alle 1981 geschrieben?)
    Finally, Red Dragon should be the end of the “Hopkins-Hannibal-Trilogy”, but in chronological order, the story of Red Dragon happens first.



    Story:
    Previous History
    The FBI agent Will Graham quits the bureau after almost losing his life by the hands of a serial killer, Hannibal Lector, but he succeeds in catching him. ("at the hands" kenn ich als eigenständige redewendung in diesem zusammenhang nicht. darum besser "by the hands")
    Main Story
    Years later Will Graham, known for his expertise in delving into the minds of killers, is not a FBI agent anymore. He is living a quiet existence with his wife and son in Florida.
    But now his specialized knowledge is asked again. A new serial killer frightens the country. Graham reluctantly agrees to come out of retirement and assist the FBI. He soon realizes that the best way to catch the killer, Francis Dolarhyde (Ralph Fiennes), “The Tooth Fairy”, is to go back to the incarcerated Lector and ask him for his insights…


    Characteristic:


    The only figure that is worth to describe in detail is the cruel killer, Francis Dolarhyde. He is a really special character that acts from a personal motive. Francis is inspired by a William-Blake-Painting “The Great Red Dragon and the Woman Clothed with the Sun”. He is obsessed by this bizarre painting, believing there is a red dragon within him, the personification of his demonic drives (Was willst du damit sagen? "er glaubt, ein RoterDrache sei in ihm, die Verkörperung seiner dämonischen... Laufwerke?)
    During the "transformation" of its victims he also feels transformed.
    (during passt hier besser, weil daduch die zeitliche gleichheit besser zum ausdruck kommt)
    When he sees himself in the mirror, he knows that Lector sees the same as he does. He believes that also Lector would see someone, which was once a human and is now a higher nature.
    (ich glaube, du willst mit "higher nature" sagen, das es jetzt ein "höheres Wesen" ist. dann musst du aber "higher being" oder "deity" nehmen. weil nature steht für "das" Wesen. Charakter... aber nicht für "ein" Wesen. ausserirdisches Wesen, oder niedliches Wesen, niedliches Tier.
    oder du schreibst: "... and has evolved to a level of higher existence" wobei das doch sehr hochtrabend klingt...)


    Flashbacks to Dolarhyde's terrifying childhood, you can understand this psychological confusion.
    (confusion für wen? den zuschauer? dann besser: due to the occuring flashbacks (oder cutbacks) to D.'s terrifying childhood, you are getting quite confused
    oder: the psychological confusion of D. is comprehensible because of the flashbacks to his childhood
    oder: the occuring flashbacks to D.'s childhood are fundamental because you can understand his psychologic confusion))
    Accordingly you can say Francis Dolarhyde is a schizophrenic character. He can identify himself with Hannibal Lector. Conversely when Francis falls in love with a blind girl, you recognize that he does not like what he does. (he hates what he does. oder he doesn't like to lay violent hands on the victims. oder: he does not like his own acting)
    The red dragon within him commands him to kill that girl, but Francis does not want to …


    Opinion:


    I think Red Dragon, as the 1st part of the Hannibal Lector trilogy, has succeeded in all points. One of the main strengths of this film was the brilliant cast, especially Edward Norton that you know from films like “Fight Club” or “American History X”, and of course Anthony Hopkins, who is the best actor of Hannibal, I think.
    The film convinced by its presentation of the characters and its very well set in shock effects supported by the soundtrack that added to the tension.
    So if you like “The silent of the lambs” you would like “Red Dragon” as well. It is much better than “Hannibal” and as exciting as “The silent of the lambs”. Anyway, they used the original locations, so there appears a feeling you know from the other films. Because of this I would really recommend this film. It is really worth seeing.



    ich war zwar im Kino, aber ich kann mich fast garnicht... also eigentlich überhaupt nicht an den Film erinnern.
    daher kann ich an einigen Stellen (he does not like what he does) nur raten, was du meinst...
    ich hab meine Änderungen nicht mehr fett getippt, schau also selbst nach, was ich geändert hab. Kommata fidnen im englischen nicht so häufig anwendung wie im Deutschen. darum hab ich ein wenig rausgekürzt. Komma-"Fehler" werden üblicherweise sowieso nicht angestrichen.




    so, und was mich zum "experten" macht? Ich kann das Sprach-Tool bei google.de ganz gut bedienen :D
    Scherz. nun, im Englisch-Forum ist häufiger was los und einer muss es ja machen. Ich bin von den Moderatoren derjenige, der sich wohl am meisten englischsprachige Filme anschaut und auch genügend englische Fachliteratur lesen darf. Ich studiere nicht Anglizistik, aber bei kniffeligen Fragen hab ich eine "Lehrerin in spe" an der Hand, die mir weiterhilft.
    Und wenn alle Stricke reißen, dann fragen wir alle den lieben Moderator namens Cepheiden, der ja schliesslich während seines Studiums einen mit 1 benoteten Schein in Englisch bekommen hat! :))


    so weit so, so gut.


    Redewendung des Tages:
    make a Mountain out of a molehill :rolleyes:

    Du kannst es nicht lassen Matthias, oder? Immer lässtern.
    nee nee nee
    [SIZE=1]P.S. Der Schein hatte nicht viel mit englischer Gramatik zu tun. Eigentlich fast nur mit Textverständnis[/SIZE]

    Nochmal danke für die gründliche Überarbeitung.


    demonic drives, im Sinne von seine demonischen (An-)Trieben. ich hatte das so aus nem Quelltext übernommen. Oder scheitn das Wort "drive" in dem Zusammenhang sehr ugs. zu sein?

    uh. 2-....
    übel...
    naja... nimms leicht. wenn ich nicht drübergegangen wär, wärs noch schlechter geworden.


    das deprimiert mich aber...
    somit wäre der posten des englisch-mods wieder vakant.
    möchte jemand anderes sein glück versuchen? ?(
    Henrik? Michael? aussenstehende?